• Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?

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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 09:48 AM - Hide
      • Electric cars will NEVER happen. Here's why.

        1. Elon Mush is a fucking CUNT. You heard me. A worthless, virtue signalling, sack of shit, CUNT.
        2. "I'm building the world's biggest ION battery factory!" ;winner5;
        3. The ONLY way to make electric cars work is to use hydrogen fuel cells. Why? Here's why:
        a) Unlimited range (unlike battery cars)
        b) ZERO emissions (just H2O) unlike batter cars whose electricity is generated from coal fired power stations.
        c) The technology exists, has been tested and proven for over 20 years, globally, works, is safe, and hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe.
        4. Existing gas station infrastructure would allow the seamless transition to hydrogen fuel cells.

        BUT

        It will N E V E R happen.

        WHY?

        BECAUSE THE JEWS IN THE USA AND ENGLAND COULDN'T CONTROL THE PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN LIKE THEY DO WITH OIL. PERIOD. ANY COUNTRY COULD PRODUCE IT. ANY COUNTRY COULD BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. WON'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. IT'S DEAD IN THE FUCKING WATER.

        TESLA ELECTRIC CARS ARE JUST DISTRACTIONS, BAUBLES AND BEEDS, EXPENSIVE TOYS FOR VIRTUE SIGNALLING FAGGOTS LIKE CLOONEY AND DAMON. :wheelin:

        I COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, "GREEN" HORSESHIT, OR GEOPOLITICS. I'LL DRIVE WHATEVER PIECE OF SHIT IS AVAILABLE AS A 10 YEAR OLD, CHEAP AS CHIPS HOOPTIE. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT "THE FUTURE". THE FUTURE IS FUCK ALL. GASOLINE ENGINES, FOREVER. :discussionclosed:
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 09:51 AM - Hide
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        Electric cars will NEVER happen. Here's why.

        1. Elon Mush is a fucking CUNT. You heard me. A worthless, virtue signalling, sack of shit, CUNT.
        2. "I'm building the world's biggest ION battery factory!" ;winner5;
        3. The ONLY way to make electric cars work is to use hydrogen fuel cells. Why? Here's why:
        a) Unlimited range (unlike battery cars)
        b) ZERO emissions (just H2O) unlike batter cars whose electricity is generated from coal fired power stations.
        c) The technology exists, has been tested and proven for over 20 years, globally, works, is safe, and hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe.
        4. Existing gas station infrastructure would allow the seamless transition to hydrogen fuel cells.

        BUT

        It will N E V E R happen.

        WHY?

        BECAUSE THE JEWS IN THE USA AND ENGLAND COULDN'T CONTROL THE PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN LIKE THEY DO WITH OIL. PERIOD. ANY COUNTRY COULD PRODUCE IT. ANY COUNTRY COULD BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. WON'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. IT'S DEAD IN THE FUCKING WATER.

        TESLA ELECTRIC CARS ARE JUST DISTRACTIONS, BAUBLES AND BEEDS, EXPENSIVE TOYS FOR VIRTUE SIGNALLING FAGGOTS LIKE CLOONEY AND DAMON. :wheelin:

        I COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, "GREEN" HORSESHIT, OR GEOPOLITICS. I'LL DRIVE WHATEVER PIECE OF SHIT IS AVAILABLE AS A 10 YEAR OLD, CHEAP AS CHIPS HOOPTIE. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT "THE FUTURE". THE FUTURE IS FUCK ALL. GASOLINE ENGINES, FOREVER. :discussionclosed:

        :nono:

        Do you think China would support electric cars if hydrogen was the way to go ?

        They want 100% electric car sales within the next decade.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 09:52 AM - Hide
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        Electric cars will NEVER happen. Here's why.

        1. Elon Mush is a fucking CUNT. You heard me. A worthless, virtue signalling, sack of shit, CUNT.
        2. "I'm building the world's biggest ION battery factory!" ;winner5;
        3. The ONLY way to make electric cars work is to use hydrogen fuel cells. Why? Here's why:
        a) Unlimited range (unlike battery cars)
        b) ZERO emissions (just H2O) unlike batter cars whose electricity is generated from coal fired power stations.
        c) The technology exists, has been tested and proven for over 20 years, globally, works, is safe, and hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe.
        4. Existing gas station infrastructure would allow the seamless transition to hydrogen fuel cells.

        BUT

        It will N E V E R happen.

        WHY?

        BECAUSE THE JEWS IN THE USA AND ENGLAND COULDN'T CONTROL THE PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN LIKE THEY DO WITH OIL. PERIOD. ANY COUNTRY COULD PRODUCE IT. ANY COUNTRY COULD BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. WON'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. IT'S DEAD IN THE FUCKING WATER.

        TESLA ELECTRIC CARS ARE JUST DISTRACTIONS, BAUBLES AND BEEDS, EXPENSIVE TOYS FOR VIRTUE SIGNALLING FAGGOTS LIKE CLOONEY AND DAMON. :wheelin:

        I COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, "GREEN" HORSESHIT, OR GEOPOLITICS. I'LL DRIVE WHATEVER PIECE OF SHIT IS AVAILABLE AS A 10 YEAR OLD, CHEAP AS CHIPS HOOPTIE. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT "THE FUTURE". THE FUTURE IS FUCK ALL. GASOLINE ENGINES, FOREVER. :discussionclosed:

        :nono:

        Do you think China would support electric cars if hydrogen was the way to go ?

        They want 100% electric car sales within the next decade.

        China can't invent a goddam thing. They will copy whatever the Whyte Man invents.

        :discussionclosed:
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 10:05 AM - Hide
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        Electric cars will NEVER happen. Here's why.

        1. Elon Mush is a fucking CUNT. You heard me. A worthless, virtue signalling, sack of shit, CUNT.
        2. "I'm building the world's biggest ION battery factory!" ;winner5;
        3. The ONLY way to make electric cars work is to use hydrogen fuel cells. Why? Here's why:
        a) Unlimited range (unlike battery cars)
        b) ZERO emissions (just H2O) unlike batter cars whose electricity is generated from coal fired power stations.
        c) The technology exists, has been tested and proven for over 20 years, globally, works, is safe, and hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe.
        4. Existing gas station infrastructure would allow the seamless transition to hydrogen fuel cells.

        BUT

        It will N E V E R happen.

        WHY?

        BECAUSE THE JEWS IN THE USA AND ENGLAND COULDN'T CONTROL THE PRODUCTION OF HYDROGEN LIKE THEY DO WITH OIL. PERIOD. ANY COUNTRY COULD PRODUCE IT. ANY COUNTRY COULD BE ENERGY INDEPENDENT. HASN'T BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. WON'T BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN. IT'S DEAD IN THE FUCKING WATER.

        TESLA ELECTRIC CARS ARE JUST DISTRACTIONS, BAUBLES AND BEEDS, EXPENSIVE TOYS FOR VIRTUE SIGNALLING FAGGOTS LIKE CLOONEY AND DAMON. :wheelin:

        I COULDN'T GIVE A FUCK ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT, "GREEN" HORSESHIT, OR GEOPOLITICS. I'LL DRIVE WHATEVER PIECE OF SHIT IS AVAILABLE AS A 10 YEAR OLD, CHEAP AS CHIPS HOOPTIE. JUST SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT "THE FUTURE". THE FUTURE IS FUCK ALL. GASOLINE ENGINES, FOREVER. :discussionclosed:

        :nono:

        Do you think China would support electric cars if hydrogen was the way to go ?

        They want 100% electric car sales within the next decade.

        China can't invent a goddam thing. They will copy whatever the Whyte Man invents.

        :discussionclosed:

        The US has SJW's and Oligarchs running things vs. Engineers in China.

        Which is better ?

        Whihc do you think has
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 10:10 AM - Hide
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        The US has SJW's and Oligarchs running things vs. Engineers in China.

        Which is better ?

        Whihc do you think has

        Gooks can't design Jack Shit.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 10:12 AM - Hide
      • You can buy an electric car in china for around $6K after all the government subsidies. Plus you automatically get a license plate v.s entering an auction lottery in big Chinese cities where the few winners? end up paying 5 figures or more for one.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 10:12 AM : Edited 10/12/2017 10:13 AM - Hide
      • On what fucking planet does a hydrogen fuel cell give you unlimited range? Hydrogen is just a fuel like any other fuel, it isn't free, and it is actually very low density which would create range problems rather than solve them.
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      • Dot587 posted:
        On what fucking planet does a hydrogen fuel cell give you unlimited range? Hydrogen is just a fuel like any other fuel, it isn't free, and it is actually very low density.

        He is just quoting some pie in the sky story from back in GWB tenure.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
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      • Hydrogen costs

        One gallon of hydrogen gas compressed into a liquid weighs 0.59 pounds, and contains the "energy equivalent" of 0.279 gallons of gasoline. Although it's not easy to compare hydrogen costs in terms of gasoline costs due to this difference in weights and energy equivalents, it takes about $4.33 of electricity to produce one gallon of hydrogen using the water electrolysis method. Since it takes 3.584 gallons of hydrogen to equal the energy contained in one gallon of gasoline, this means it would cost over $15.52 (3.584 gallon x $4.33), not to mention a fuel tank almost four times normal size, to contain the same energy content in a gallon of gasoline.
        Since hydrogen fuel cells have a "net" energy efficiency of 66%, and a typical automobile engine has a "net" energy efficiency of 33%, using fuel cells instead of a gasoline engine to power a car means you could travel twice as far. This makes the equivalent cost around $7.76 per gallon ($15.52/2), but this is still almost three times the cost of gasoline at today's prices.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 11:03 AM - Hide
      • Economies of scale
        :dumbass:
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 02:46 PM - Hide
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        That's the pl;an right, have everyone driving electric cars in 5-10 years ?

        It's not just about electric cars. Part of the plan is to reduce highway congestion by pricing the working class off the roads. Progressives are Communists at heart and organized scarcity has always been part and parcel of Communist economics.
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      • Re: Most people have a hard time affording a new Corolla. How will they afford an electric car for 2-3x as much ?
        Posted 10/12/2017 03:40 PM - Hide
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        That's the pl;an right, have everyone driving electric cars in 5-10 years ?

        It's not just about electric cars. Part of the plan is to reduce highway congestion by pricing the working class off the roads. Progressives are Communists at heart and organized scarcity has always been part and parcel of Communist economics.

        Fuck yeah ! Raise taxes and fees and have tolls to get lower income people to quit driving and those that do give them big fat $700 tickets for doing a CA stop .

        It's all about taxes and fees for them, otherwise they could implement no cost solutions like mandatory car pooling or odd-even license plate driving days. But no, that might affect Mr. Lib in his Lexus .
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